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Yes, That Too: I really really really REALLY hate it when people self diagnose themselves with the most random shit.

flopryn:

goldenheartedrose:

dyspraxicpanda:

flopryn:

You aren’t dyspraxic,…

misinformation does hurt people. Misinformation like thinking you have a disorder and spreading ‘facts’ about it that aren’t really true.

I’m not saying anyone in this argument is falsifying facts, I am just returning to my original argument that they are plenty of people out there who falsify their ‘disorder’

See, therein lies the difference. Because, for you, this is “an argument”. For me, it’s the same old bullshit people demanding that I justify my existence and prove that I “really am” ______, because obviously I need credentials substantiating my LIFE. To prove that my pain is real, and just the same old invalidating, “I’m gonna need to see proof that this ‘oppression’ you say you suffer from actually exists, because all of us up here in the Ivory Tower are doing just finnnnne.”

Because I don’t have to argue my existence on your bullshit terms.

Misinformation does in fact cause terrible harm. But you know what? Hating and shaming people who are suffering from intersections of very real institutional oppression, silencing, and lack of opportunity isn’t protecting the ~sanctity~ of diagnosis. All it’s doing is adding tot he burden of people who are already suffering. Has it ever occurred to you that if you want to prevent harm, maybe shitting on the people who are suffering from harm is NOT the way to accomplish that?

You’re upholding a system that blames victims in favor of those who are the ones victimizing them. Seriously, just the fact that your symbol of invalidation is “13 year old girls” goes to show you that in our society, just saying that a 13 year old girl does or likes anything is synonymous with rendering that thing or action worthless.

Maybe you should think about that for a fucking second.

But then, of course, you’d have to consider that you might not be the bastion of rightness and goodness that your psyche tells you must be…your rightness is the absolute font of all subsequent conclusions, and therefore anything I could possibly say on the matter is moot.

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I don’t think I ever shit on someone who is suffering. I say again, I never said that anyone who hasn’t seen a doctor obviously doesn’t have a problem. Before I saw a doctor, I had a problem. 

I never asked anyone to get credentials on how they are feeling or what they experience. But just because you feel depressed doesn’t mean that you have the chemical imbalance in your brain that causes hereditary depression disorders. 

I am not saying that you personally do not have any disorder because I don’t know you personally.

But when I see someone who I have known personally for all of my life and have been very close with say that they think they are OCD now because they don’t like it when picture frames aren’t straight, THAT is when I get frustrated. Especially because I see the pain and struggles my step mom goes through with her OCD. 

When I see someone say they are autistic because they don’t like talking in front of people, but will willingly raise their hand in class to boldly answer a question, it frustrates me. Because I have seen my step-sister go through such turmoil and struggles and finally got diagnosed. 

That is what frustrates me.

And, you’re now completely contradicting yourself.

I never asked anyone to get credentials on how they are feeling or what they experience.”

Your criteria of diagnosis from not one, but two doctors as requirements for validity of being seen by you, apparently, of actually having _____ disorder is invalidating countless people. I would consider that shitting on them.

This is you: “I have never done the thing that I am doing right now.”

People who misuse the names of disorders in order to trivialize those actually living with said disorders are problematic. They are still much less of a problem than those who go around calling those who self-diagnose due to institutional barriers to diagnosis is much more dangerous.

You’re thinking you are fighting ableism, but you’re just replacing one ableist line of bullshit with another ableist line of bullshit. You say, “before I saw a doctor, I had a problem.”

NO SHIT.

I’m diagnosed with autism, never had a problem answering questions in class. Easiest kind of social interaction there is. Ask me, ‘hey how are you today’ and I’ll struggle more.

I think it’s so important to respond with kindness to people who tell you they think they have a mental disorder, because the reaction they get when they confide in you now is going to affect their ability to talk about mental health for the rest of their lives. Let’s say this thirteen year old girl turns out not to be autistic/bipolar/whatever, but she does suffer a period of crippling depression in her mid thirties. How much harder is it going to be for her to access help when she remembers being ridiculed?

Sometimes people tell me about their mental health problems, and I think, ‘I don’t think you have that’, or, ‘that isn’t really a problem’. But if you’re a decent person, you should never let it pass your lips, (or indeed, write about it on the internet).

— 8 months ago with 99 notes
  1. harvey91 reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    I’m sure a few people...know can relate to this, not
  2. ghost-plot reblogged this from andigreyscale and added:
    Self diagnosing can be dangerous in rare circumstances, but there are reasons people do it and those reasons can’t be...
  3. ileolai reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    I wish people would realise that this argument is completely self-detonating. If someone without a medical degree...
  4. starvingartista reblogged this from wont-take-a-backseat and added:
    While I have never been diagnosed my mother works in the medical field my grandmother used too before she passed. In...
  5. wont-take-a-backseat reblogged this from equalseleventhirds and added:
    I also don’t have much money, I’m being phased out of my health insurance the minute I turn 19 so I have to being the...
  6. not-quitenormal reblogged this from equalseleventhirds and added:
    I suffer depression and have known about it (and denied it) for about five years. It was self-diagnosed. And that...
  7. equalseleventhirds reblogged this from goldenheartedrose and added:
    Hey, so I’ve been clinically depressed for years (and knew it), but only got diagnosed about a year and a half ago. No...
  8. biyuti reblogged this from infamousnfamous and added:
    The explanations fhat followed made that clear… but if you can’t express your point without spouting a bunch of...
  9. infamousnfamous reblogged this from biyuti and added:
    I wouldn’t go as far as to call you guys ‘special cases’ cuz clearly you aren’t, but I think OP kind of has a point. I’m...
  10. janglin--soul reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    preach.
  11. flopryn reblogged this from bookishdea and added:
    I agree with a lot of what you have said here. The point that I was trying to make is about those people who do it just...
  12. indigoseedling reblogged this from karalianne
  13. karalianne reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    Oh, hi. So I was probably dysthymic throughout my childhood and adolescence. I guarantee you that I was clinically...
  14. bookishdea reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    Saw this reblogged on Dyspraxic Panda, but replying directly here. Look, I am all against people who self-diagnose as...
  15. jesse-eisenberg reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    just going to throw out there that i think you two are fighting on different sides of the same coin. calm down and...
  16. girljanitor reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    At this point I’m just entertained by this specific example of a person who can hold two directly opposing opinions at...
  17. lifeofmammals reblogged this from girljanitor and added:
    I’m diagnosed with autism, never had a problem answering questions in class. Easiest kind of social interaction there...
  18. sunnyradianttenacity reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    She couldn’t directly address it, but she did target therapy at the things that I’d brought up. So, probably? And...
  19. rpatzel reblogged this from girljanitor and added:
    Nothing whatsoever. You’re right, of course, and I offer my sincerest apologies for suggesting otherwise. My argument is...
  20. gointorosedale reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    Hey, um, op, former thirteen-year-old who self-diagnosed as bipolar here. And you know fucking what, I was right, and...
  21. yesthattoo reblogged this from rpatzel and added:
    I think we have described the harm that has been done quite well, thanks. You know, people insisting that something...
  22. g--hettodracula reblogged this from girljanitor
  23. 23453567787654345656635345345345 reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    You aren’t smart, you’re ignorant.
  24. gauvaindecourfeyrac reblogged this from goldenheartedrose
  25. goldenheartedrose reblogged this from flopryn and added:
    No one takes people seriously who say they have a disorder when they dont even understand one thing about said disorder....
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